How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

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ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

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The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

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For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Now here in this verse

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

CONCLUSION:

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

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ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

NOW…

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

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ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Sain (a barber)

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||